<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Who has said this?! I don't know of anyone specifically who has made this broad of a statement in here...I could be worng...unless they were one of the "younger" guys...& that's not an off to those guys. Some people just haven't learned exactly what is meant by jazz historically. That's no boig deal. They will. If they don't, eh, so what. They're not ready yet. Try to inform them in a POSITIVE way, I always say...not by showing how enlightened i seem to be, & you're not. This is the sign of a true, good teacher, becasue if you;'re going to comment on the subject, why not inform instead of divide from out of the gate?Quote:
[VC] is the undisputed master of all musical styles.
& it's not theoretical at all. There are def facts which have been discussed [beaten] here.
"The question cannot be dismissed as mere 'semantics'" - it never was. Perhaps you musunderstood my intent, & perhaps took that out of context of the whole premise.<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Again, WHO ever said this?!Quote:
"master" of the idiom
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Mine, neither.Quote:
I were to give a list of one hundred drummers to listen to in order to learn how to play in the bop/post-bop musical idioms, Vinnie wouldn't be on the list.
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Huh?Quote:
quasi-religious commitment to Vinnie's greatness could motivate the statement that Vinnie "could" play in a certain way
I know what you mean, but still, why bring the notion of religion into this? What's the inportance of presuming that someone is denoting VC a "demi-god" or something, making them so-called religious [in a down-the-nose tone]? This is getting way out of hand, & weirder by the second.<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">As in your thought process, I think the term random is at issue here. Not meaning to be presumptuous, but maybe you took it the wrong way, or perhaps there's a better descriptn or wording. I didn't take that as in what some deem "random" as in "not understood or deliberated" or simply, scattered without form or context or thought or study; as much as meaning dispersed throughout according to schooled intent...but that's just me. [img]cool.gif[/img]Quote:
thread describing left-hand comping as "random accents
Again, What was i saying a minute ago about getting outta here?!...
<font color="#a62a2a" size="1">[ May 04, 2005 05:18 PM: Message edited by: got_a_matchgrip? ]</font>